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Gemini’s Culture War, Kara Swisher Burns Us and SCOTUS Takes Up Content Moderation


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Hosted by Kevin Roose and Casey Newton

Produced by Davis Land and Rachel Cohn

Edited by Jen Poyant

Engineered by Chris Wood

Original music by Dan Powell, Marion Lozano, Rowan Niemisto and Diane Wong

Google removed the ability to generate images of people from its Gemini chatbot. We talk about why, and about the brewing culture war over artificial intelligence. Then, did Kara Swisher start “Hard Fork”? We clear up some podcast drama and ask about her new book, “Burn Book.” And finally, the legal expert Daphne Keller tells us how the U.S. Supreme Court might rule on the most important First Amendment cases of the internet era, and what Star Trek and soy boys have to do with it.

Today’s guests:

  • Kara Swisher, tech journalist and Casey Newton’s former landlord

  • Daphne Keller, director of the program on platform regulation at Stanford University’s Cyber Policy Center

Additional Reading:

  • Google C.E.O. Calls AI Tool’s Controversial Responses ‘Completely Unacceptable’

  • Kara Swisher Is Not Here to Make Friends in Her New Memoir

  • Burn Book: A Tech Love Story by Kara Swisher

  • Daphne Keller’s FAQs About the NetChoice Cases at the Supreme Court

Credit…Photo Illustration by The New York Times; Photo: Getty Images


Credits

“Hard Fork” is hosted by Kevin Roose and Casey Newton and produced by Davis Land and Rachel Cohn. The show is edited by Jen Poyant. Engineering by Alyssa Moxley and original music by Dan Powell, Marion Lozano, Diane Wong and Rowan Niemisto. Fact-checking by Caitlin Love.

Special thanks to Paula Szuchman, Pui-Wing Tam, Nell Gallogly, Kate LoPresti and Jeffrey Miranda.

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